Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the King's horses, And all the King's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
There is the thought that organized religion has taken a great fall, evidenced by the 1,000,000 plus people who are falling away from the church worldwide, annually. The question becomes who can put Humpty Dumpty back together again?
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I sure hope not. God’s been dead since Nietzsche. When are religious leaders going to wake up?
Am wondering if that really is the question.
That is an interesting thought Ignacio. I know my God to be alive and well. I hope you will meet mine under favorable terms.
Hi Daune. As for putting religion back together again, I suppose it is a universal effort that has been going on since the beginning of time. Sadly, much of mankind keeps falling back in love with religion.
I am excited to be part of the family that loves God and looks for the day Jesus will come again! Wahoo!
Know… How do you know? I thought it was all about faith for you guys.
Hi Ignacio. What guys might you be talking about?
Hi Archie;
For Ignacio, I will say this. I am no lover of religion nor a respecter of books.
It is not about “you” people. Everyone of us shares the same common denominator, life.
Many believe in God, or an entity which controls or is responsible for us having our “lives”. People have searched for this since the beginning of time and many look to ancient texts for a “clue” as to what is, if for no other purpose than to anchor themselves to a “faith” of some kind as this world does not make sense to them, nor to me either.
Many people I know, from all religions and also people who are atheists have a moral code they attempt to follow. Faith is a personal issue. If some people rejoice in their faith and wish to share it, that is fine. If they use their faith to judge others or attempt to rule, maybe not so fine.
This world is approaching a cliff and it isn’t slowing down, regardless what the media is having us believe.
During times of stress, faith is a comfort for many. Faith is the only thing that separates them from insanity or loss of all hope.
Mankind is not perfect. We have no idea what perfect is and we know that deep inside.
There is more to this thing called life than meets the eye.
Ignacio, for those who are criticized for believing in God, at least they believe in something. For those who believe in only what their senses tell them and are satisfied with that, that is fine too.
However, for both groups to demean one another, is that right?
Can you prove God doesn’t exist?
I believe I can prove life exists, as we appear to be living it, unless this thing called life is my imagination.
Thank you, Ich.
I didn’t intend to demean anyone by saying “you guys”, I happen to agree with Ichabod.
this is an issue that i qam overly passionate about—just had a conversation about it today—get so tired myself of “organized religion”, “denominations”, “churches” full of so much judgment, thinking they are the the only ones, the only “truth”, if you don’t think this, that you are damn to hell, etc (guess i am still on my frustration roll here)—it just leads to hurt, further struggles, confusion, questions, and resentment—and then where do you even go anymore to find the “truth”—i know the answer is the “bible”–and HIM–that is where the truth lies—not in “religion, denominations, churches”–and all this legalism, etc is just pushing people away from the one thing that can get them through life—heartbreaking to me 😦 just said today what really is the purpose of “church” anymore?????? why attend to get judged???? but that is just my opinion
hi lost sheep;
I know the feeling, and after some time even walked away from the bible.
Yet, I personally think there is a purpose for us being, for life.
That is only my opinion, not necessarily of others. However, I respect their opinions and beliefs. I only ask they respect mine with the same attitude as I bestow on them.
I have discussed and argued about it in the past, but there is no changing a person’s true belief, one way or another. If a person changes, life changes the person. Some may say God had something to do with that.
Maybe so. I don’t think it is worth arguing or judging over anymore.
When someone tells me I am going to go to hell, because I didn’t do or not do something, I have a problem with that as that is judgment, something we have no control over or pretending we have.
Judgment, if it exists, is the right of only that which created life.
My apologies to Archie for throwing my two cents on his blog, but he allows “strange” comments like mine on occasion when he is in a good mood and this thread is interesting. That being as it may, my comment may or may not coincide with management. 🙂
i agree with alot of what you said ich. i even find myself turning from the “bible” and i don’t want to—but when you think you know something, understand it–only to be told by “church” how WRONG you are—sigh…. but again i keep plugging away—-and i guess with me to, I respect their opinion, thoughts—why can’t they respect mine??? only trying to find the “truth” and through HIM i will—not through some “church”—and personally i do see alot of people walking away from religion, church, etc—-when that should be the one place you should be able to go to and find for “peace”, “comfort”, etc.
I though will attempt to put at least a piece of humpty back together again, somehow—even if i get cracked in the process 🙂
hi lost sheep;
It is all about where the heart or soul is, isn’t it? when you attend an organized event, it becomes as a place of sheep, much like a football game or a motivational seminar selling a ponzi type scheme. They are all alike.
Someone on stage says smile, and everyone smiles, even if they do not feel like smiling. It is an act.
The man or woman at the podium is no different than you or I, yet they have the floor for about an hour or hour an a half with a carefully scripted story to either make us feel less than, reminding us how much we stray, or how we may achieve fortune,health or mansions in a place no one has ever returned from.
“Believe” they cry.
“Why?” say I.
So I travel my spiritual path alone, as I will die alone. No one will be holding my hand when my conscious being ceases to exist. Whatever will be will be.
Yet, while we live on this planet, and share life with others, I think that it desired for us to look after this planet and each other as best we can. Before man came to being there were no temples or houses of “worship”.
Jesus Christ made his most famous speeches outdoors, the house of God. Creation we refer to it, although it may always have been.
There was not much dogma in his life. He helped people regardless if it was the Sabbath day, spoke to thieves, hookers, tax collectors, soldiers and the rich.
My life has no “church” or “religion” in it. At one time I feared this, as I though I wasn’t being faithful to God. When I quit reading the bible, I did so not because I didn’t believe, because I recognized I was loving the book and words within it so much, I was committing idolatry.
I loved the book more than I loved God, and the book was always right, regardless if it may have been wrong.
I stepped out into the world, the way I came in. Empty handed, with only my senses to guide me. It has been a learning experience. I am not judgmental to people as I was when I was “religious”. I am no longer superior to a Catholic, evangelist, atheist, hobo, Muslim, Jew, Palestinian, gay person or anyone.
I perceived myself at one time being of the elect. Not through my actions as I was a pitiful human and still am, but because I accepted, and that saved me, insuring salvation and a mansion.
Unfortunately, that thinking is dangerous and divides us as surely as social/economic circumstances divides people. causing discrimination and racism.
We are all the same. We may react differently, and some may choose to perform heinous acts on their fellow man and require incarceration or the ultimate punishment to keep the rest of “society” safe, however for the most part, we do not fall into that category.
I feel the spirit and essence of life which many refer to as God quite often. It gives me strength when I have none, faith when mine is lost, love, when I feel I have none left to give, righteous anger if something bad happens within my sphere of influence to someone I love and compassion for those less fortunate than myself.
Yet my compassion only goes so far, as there is a means and a purpose for everyone of us walking this journey, and if he or she is less fortunate, I am happy to help if I can, but it is not always in my power to do so.
Do I have the answer? I truly do not know, however I am comfortable with me and where I am, regardless how life affects me.
Will I still be the same ten years from now if I still have my wits about me and I am alive, who knows?
I know nothing is impossible when it comes to the mind and spirituality of mankind.
WOW! Looks like I have some late night reading to do…
we thought you might be bored LOL so decided to help out–btw thanks for this site—i appreciate and look forward to what you write
wen
Hi lost sheep. Thank you for the encouragement!
Yes. You guys did a great job of passionately communicating your thoughts. I think most religious types get offended quickly and are frightened with freedom of speech. Personally I think God is big enough to fight His own battles.
So express away.
archie