“Tithing is OK. Giving is MUCH better.”~priest

Do you do Facebook?  If so, there has been quite the intellectual discussion going on at:

There is no need to wonder if people are passionate about money. That comes without saying. I have been blessed in the dialog that for the most part, Jesus has not been neglected and authors have been tolerant of each other’s beliefs. I have concluded and observed a couple things. See if you agree.
When it comes to giving whether in times before Jesus or after Jesus, the act of giving is all about the heart. God does love a cheerful giver.
The issue of tithe 10% or not is really a mute point. What real value is there in a word? Whether the word is tithe, transfer assets, write a check or give, does not matter. It is the act and the condition of your heart when you take action. If I fall short in the giving area, likely it is because some times it just becomes mechanical in nature. I give and don’t think about it. Likely, God would prefer I give Him thanks for the opportunity to give.
I am a bit intrigued about the dynamics of the dialog. I think I have a rather diversified Facebook friendship of about 1500 people. Most of the dialog is created by those who believe in giving but think the concept of tithing is under the law and Jesus freed us from the law. Very few commented they believe tithing is a new testament concept.
I find it interesting in a public venue such as Facebook, tithers for the most part do not step up to the plate and defend their beliefs. This is not a judgement statement, just an observation that the debate is a bit lopsided and was not intended to be.
As to where you give and how much you give, that is between you and the Father. I know a church’s business model is based on 20% of the members giving 80% of the money. So your giving or tithing is important to the success of the model. God bless you in your faithfulness.
My suggestion for the 100% of believers is to do a heart check and determine how much and where God wants you to invest your money. Maybe it will be to your local church. Maybe it will be to feed the poor. Maybe it will be both. Giving is commanded by God. To choose otherwise is disobedience.
Thank you again for your passion.  All things work together for those that love the Lord.  That is a promise!

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  1. Tíler Mícheál Ó Maoltuile tithing is not ok if its being forced down people’s throats from the pulpit since its not necessary or biblical any more, agreed?
    10 hours ago ·

    Jennifer Rutledge If we’re holding on to anger or bitterness towards leaders who have spoke God’s Truth on giving…than that’s only imprisoning us from feeling truly blessed to give back of our resources to God’s Kingdom and however it is meant by Him to be used. Not saying that all “leaders” speak the Truth the way God meant it to be…
    9 hours ago ·

    Archie Rhines I question the idea of “force”. Maybe, but have never experienced it personally. It seems at least 80% of the body chooses. It is just that they choose to not tithe.

    I think I just made myself laugh. Love you Mike and Jennifer.
    9 hours ago ·

    Renee Scott i got “kicked” out of a church a few years ago because i did not tithe enough–nice little letter that said i was no longer a memember
    9 hours ago ·

    Rick Lindholtz Tiler – Tithing not biblical? Well let’s see. Read Matt 5:17 thru the end of the chapter – here’s a quick link.
    Jesus raises the bar on the OT in every case. Where is it written that in the area of finances he throws the bar away?

    I agree that giving is better than tithing, if “tithing” is viewed as legalism. But there’s no question that Jesus calls us to joyfully generous living, and 10% of our income should be the floor, not the ceiling. I’ve done it both ways. Generosity is better.
    9 hours ago ·

    Tíler Mícheál Ó Maoltuile Rick, if you read the OT you will find that tithing is exactly 10% of livestock and cattle that was taken from a larger tax to the Israel state. The 10% went directly to the Levites in order to run the temple. Is the temple around anymore? Is the tithe necessary then? No temple= no tithe. Is this why modern Jews do not tithe because they know better than any one else that without the Levites or the temple there is no tithe. Call me a stickler for Scripture, but there is an extreme historical and theological difference between the “tithe” (10%) and offering or giving freely. The NT is full of examples of giving abundantly and freely, and notice, not anywhere was it given towards a building fund or towards a person’s salary. In fact it was almost always given towards widows and orphans, and those suffering for the gospel. The problem I have is with ministers and pastors who misinterpret the Scripture, take it out of historical and theological context, and use it to further advance perishable things that ultimately rely on pride and greed- namely, big church buildings, expensive salaries, and a system that looks nothing like the Kingdom. Jesus said “where your treasure is, there will your heart be also”. If our “treasure” is in buildings and in salaries, then thats where our hearts are.
    8 hours ago ·

    Jennifer Rutledge I know that once my family started tithing and being obedient to God, we just found ourselves feeling blessed beyond measure, not always in finances either. I think the act of giving is very important, but doing it with a willing heart is just as important too.
    8 hours ago ·

    Tíler Mícheál Ó Maoltuile Jennifer- thanks for reminding me that Jesus was all about “why” and not the “what”! So important!
    8 hours ago ·

    Joey Pierson Archie, Love you Brother
    8 hours ago ·

    Rick Knock Rick, I recently posted this on a different thread dealing with the same topic. I hope you’ll find it interesting…
    Matt 15:1-9 NLT
    Some Pharisees and teachers of religious law now arrived from Jerusalem to see Jesus. “Why do your disciples disobey our age-old tradition?” they demanded. “They ignore our tradition of ceremonial hand washing before they eat.”

    Jesus replied, “And why do you, by your traditions, violate the direct commandments of God? For instance, God says, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and ‘Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘Sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.’ In this way, you say they don’t need to honor their parents. And so you cancel the word of God for the sake of your own tradition. You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote,

    ‘These people honor me with their lips,
    but their hearts are far from me.
    Their worship is a farce,
    for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.'”
    8 hours ago ·

    Pam Turner Breen I simply love all of you guys….you are all enriching my life so much….you are great teachers……i’m so glad glad to be one of archies face book friends so i can read all of what you guys say…… 🙂
    8 hours ago ·

    Justin Kuek Tithing is Old Covenant…
    6 hours ago ·

    Tíler Mícheál Ó Maoltuile Thank you, Justin! I think a lot of well intentioned people quote the OT without remembering Paul’s words to the Romans- “if you keep one law you are accountable to keep the entire law”.
    4 hours ago ·

    Sarah Rook At the end of the week Churches have bills & the staff inc the Pastors need to be paid. God has told us if we build his house he will build our house. I tithe regardless of what bills I have – God has been faithful to me and I never go without – even if sometimes I have no idea where the money will come from. Do we want our church to fail??? NO…I personally want our church to grow so big we need to move somewhere bigger. Tithing is essential to the survival of our churches. Sure I agree that some churches may take advantage of tithes…but God will deal with them.
    about an hour ago ·

    Rick Knock Hi Sarah,
    Where did God say that? I’d like to read it. 🙂
    about an hour ago ·

    Ann Johnstone Tiler, I agree with you 100%. The New Testament style church, which consists of comparatively small groups meeting in homes, does NOT require money to be expended on pastors and buildings. Each person contributes their gifts/talents for the good of all, is encouraged to be generous towards those in need and is a living example of the difference Christ makes in each life. As Ephesians 4 states, “… from Him (Christ) the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.”
    27 minutes ago ·

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